National Council on Disability Federal
Advisory Committee International Watch
Conference Call
September 2, 2004
12:00 p.m. EST Attendance
Kathy Martinez, Chair and Facilitator
Joan Durocher, NCD Staff
Jeff Rosen, NCD Staff
Pam O’Leary, NCD Staff
Yerker Andersson, former NCD council member
Susan Siegal
Cappie Morgan
Bruce Curtis
John German
Brian Mueller
Roseangela Berman-Bieler
Judy Heumann
Jerry Mindes
Eric Rosenthal
Alicia Contreras
Nora Groce
Guests
Clay Lowery, Vice President, Millennium Challenge Corporation (MCC)
Sherry Kram, MCC
Judy Barsalou, U.S. Institute of Peace
Patricia Karam, U.S. Institute of Peace
I. Roll Call and Welcome
Ms. Martinez welcomed participants and asked that they introduce
themselves.
II. Amend/Approve the Agenda
Ms. Martinez asked if there were any amendments to the minutes or
additions to the agenda. Mr. Anderson asked members to identify
themselves before making comments. The agenda was approved.
III. Millennium Challenge Corporation
Presentation
Ms. Martinez welcomed Mr. Lowery, his colleague, and the guests
from the U.S. Institute for Peace. Ms. Martinez then asked Mr. Lowery
to provide a brief overview of the Millennium Challenge Corporation
(MCC) and explain how he was planning on protecting disability rights
in the countries receiving funds from the organization.
Mr. Lowery began by thanking everyone for inviting
MCC representatives to the conference, and mentioned how helpful
and educational it had been working with the NCD in the past year.
He then apologized on behalf of his colleague, CEO John Applegarth,
who was unable to attend the conference due to his travel schedule.
Mr. Lowery replied that in 2002 President Bush asked
a group of people to examine development assistance and its effectiveness.
The group recommended rewarding countries for sound policy and asking
countries what projects they most wanted funding for. In 2003 Congress
authorized the founding of the MCC with a $1 billion starting budget.
The selection process to choose which countries would
receive MCC funds began by placing the seventy poorest countries
in a competition. The nations were examined through the use of three
indicators designed to judge policy performance: ruling justly,
investment in people, and encouragement of economic freedom. The
board of directors, consisting of the Secretary of State, the Secretary
of the Treasury, the USAID administrator, the U.S. trade representative,
the MCC CEO, and two new members, Christy Todd Whitman and Ken Hackett,
chose sixteen countries to receive funds this year. Eight of these
are in Africa, three are in Latin America, two are in the former
Soviet Union, and two are in Asia.
Two weeks after the decision was made, five teams
of people went to the selected countries and talked to governments,
NGOs, other private sector organizations, academics, and donors.
After congratulating each country, the teams explained that the
country is responsible for informing the MCC about what kinds of
programs would support economic growth and poverty reduction. This
direction is not to come from just the governments, but also from
the private sector.
Additionally, countries are responsible for establishing
progress-monitoring systems, as the MCC and the community will hold
them accountable. Failure to produce progress will result in the
MCC withdrawing investment funds, but will have no effect on USAID
funds or other assistance programs.
Thus far, the selected countries have demonstrated
a range of responses. They are proud of being chosen, excited about
articulating development priorities, and fearful that their projects
might not reach completion.
Mr. Lowery concluded his statement by saying that
because no data comparing the way countries treat people with disabilities
exists, the MCC examines information on health care, political rights,
and human rights provided in the State Department’s Human
Rights reports.
Ms. Martinez noted that although the State Department
is providing the best information they can, the reports are very
weak.
Mr. Lowery continued by explaining the consultative
process. Rather than allowing the selected countries’ governments
to allocate how all funds are spent, the MCC funds a wide variety
of programs demanded by society. Since people with disabilities
are a part of the community, they will have the opportunity to make
suggestions during this process.
Mr. Lowery added that people with disabilities would
also benefit from the projects themselves. Funds can be spent on
a range of programs from policy changes to the creation of a building.
The MCC wants to be sure that the programs it is associated with
will be accessible.
Mr. Lowery finished his presentation and asked if
there were any questions.
IV. Question and Answer Period
Ms. Berman-Bieler asked (1) if poverty was one of the indicators
determining who would receive funding, and (2) whether the MCC works
directly with governments or citizens.
Mr. Lowery explained that poverty is not one of the
indicators, but rather an initial test. Seventy-five of the poorest
countries (based on data from the World Bank) were chosen, checked
for foreign assistance eligibility, and run through the indicators.
Once the countries are selected, the MCC signs a compact with the
government. This compact means that the government agrees that this
is a program they should be participating in. At this point, governments
may enter a tendering process with the private sector. Thus, although
the MCC works closely with governments, they are not the only actors
in the process.
Ms. Berman-Bieler responded that in Nicaragua she
is trying to get people with disabilities involved in development
and design discussions regarding poverty reduction strategies. She
suggested that MCC’s approach be one of total inclusion, of
involvement in more than disability-specific strategizing, so that
people with disabilities benefit from all monies received by their
country.
Ms. Heumann asked (1) whether the MCC is working independently
or with organizations such as regional development banks and other
major donors, and (2) how the MCC establishes operate indicators
in the PRSP and cast.
Mr. Lowery responded that once countries propose a
project, the MCC wants to know what donors are doing, as well as
what areas donors are particularly interested in funding. When the
MCC went to all sixteen countries, it made sure it met the bilateral
donors, the U.S. institutions, the World Bank, the regional banks,
and the International Monetary Fund where appropriate. Approximately
one month ago, the World Bank met with the MCC to discuss their
areas of interest. The MCC welcomes working with other development
institutions and is open to co-financing.
Mr. Lowery said he did not have sufficient information
to answer Ms. Heumann’s second question, but USAID should
be contacting her next week to schedule a meeting.
Ms. Heumann asked if disabilities is one of the areas
Mr. Lowery is working on, and he replied that the MCC does not make
suggestions to countries. The MCC is interested in hearing the countries’
priorities, and does not want to influence them by making suggestions
regarding disabilities, education, health, infrastructure, etc.
Mr. Mindes stated that he felt MCC funds were going
toward infrastructure programs rather than those that would directly
benefit people with disabilities. He asked what this meant in terms
of future spending if the economically and socially disenfranchised
were not being reached.
Mr. Lowery responded that the MCC is fine with funding
projects, whether they are related to infrastructure or health programs
or another alternative, so long as society is the beneficiary. Currently
many countries are asking for funds to support rural development,
and several countries have submitted proposals for projects totaling
over $1 billion. The MCC wants to take into account population subgroups,
including people with disabilities, and determine who is actually
benefiting from proposed projects. Thus, the MCC might be required
to make certain changes to countries’ proposals.
Ms. Contreras commented that in Mexico, aid programs
failed to make projects, including ecological bathrooms and public
transportation, accessible for people with disabilities. In Nicaragua,
$500,000 was set aside by the IDB specifically for disabilities.
When the IDB realized the organization controlling the funds was
incapable of managing a budget, the money was given to a different
organization that was completely unaware of disability needs. She
proposed that in the future programs like the MCC provide technical
assistance to the countries receiving funds so that accessibility
concerns are addressed from the beginning.
Mr. Curtis asked for further information regarding
the use of the MCC’s qualitative indicators.
Mr. Lowery replied that the MCC wants the indicators
to be as objective as possible, and for this reason third parties
have been brought in. Quantitative data is also collected to demonstrate
objectivity. Once data is collected, trends, missing data, and possible
lags must all be taken into account. MCC board members are given
this information, as well as opinions from U.S. embassies, before
final decisions are made.
Mr. Rosenthal stated that in the U.S. the government
will not fund a program unless it is accessible to people with disabilities.
He referred to NCD’s foreign policy report that recommended
the MCC not fund programs unless they are accessible to people with
disabilities, and asked Mr. Lowery whether this suggestion is consistent
with the MCC mandate. He suggested that this way of thinking might
establish a basic civil rights principle that would deter all types
of discrimination.
Mr. Lowery responded that he had read the report but
was not prepared to mandate anything at this time.
Ms. Martinez encouraged meeting with the World Bank
and other development organizations working to make access a part
of the process.
Ms. Heumann said that as she understood it, the U.S.
recently imposed a set of regulations requiring oversees construction
paid for with U.S. funds to be accessible to people with disabilities.
She asked Mr. Lowery if this regulation is applicable to MCC projects.
Mr. Lowery said while that is the intention of the
MCC, he was not familiar with the regulation and could not comment
on it.
Mr. Curtis stated that the MCC should evaluate proposed
countries’ education systems in order to see whether people
with disabilities are fully integrated, as education is one of the
major factors in poverty reduction.
Mr. Lowery asked if any organizations had statistics
of this nature.
Ms. Heumann replied not at this time, although the
World Bank is working to find a uniform way of collecting this information.
Ms. Groce mentioned the importance of collecting data
on subgroups within the disability community.
Ms. Berman-Bieler told Mr. Lowery that the Lake Tahoe
Latin American countries would be willing to share the statistics
they have collected, and proposed a future partnership. Ms. Martinez
offered to call interested offices about such a meeting.
Mr. Lowery offered his contact information:
www.mcc.gov
LoweryC@mcc.gov
Mr. Lowery asked if anyone present had information
about NGOs or civic groups involved with people with disabilities
in any of the sixteen selected countries.
Ms. Martinez asked if Mr. Lowery would be interested
in serving as a conduit between NGOs and the governments, and Mr.
Lowery declined.
Ms. Heumann offered to send Mr. Lowery a copy of a
World Bank report reviewing PRSP and the involvement of disability
groups. At a future meeting, Ms. Heumann will provide a list of
international disability groups with particular emphasis on those
that are in the selected countries.
Mr. Lowery proposed a meeting during which someone
from the NCD would talk to MCC staff about disability. Ms. Martinez
replied that NCD was willing to meet, and she expected other organizations
have a similar desire.
Ms. Siegal offered Mr. Lowery foreign contacts she
could provide, as well as an updated version of a report on disabilities
in international development. She also suggested that the MCC add
a board member with disability expertise.
Mr. Lowery explained that Congress nominates individuals
to serve on the board and they are the appropriate party to direct
such questions toward.
Ms. Martinez asked about adding people with disabilities
to the staff. Mr. Lowery replied that he would be willing to accept
resumes, although the MCC was trying to keep a small staff.
Ms. Siegal asked what happens in the event that a
country submits a proposal in which the issues of people with disabilities
are clearly neglected.
Mr. Lowery said the MCC would not support a discriminatory
program. The MCC includes the private sector in order to see what
societal priorities actually are.
Mr. German said he would like to do a follow-up meeting
with Mr. Lowery and any other interested organizations.
Ms. Martinez thanked Mr. Lowery and his colleague
for their time.
The U.S. Institute of Peace gave a brief overview
of their organization. Ms. Barsalou provided contact information
for herself and Ms. Karam. She explained that the U.S. Institute
of Peace has a grant available for work in Iraq and is interested
in including and fostering the participation of people with disabilities.
V. Adjournment
The meeting adjourned at 1:10 p.m. EST. |